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June 6, 2011
Brad Profile (updated 10/23/2012)
Height/Weight: 6'6"/191 lbs.
L to FM = .345 secs
FM to FFS = .690 secs
FFS to PR = .138 secs
SL at FFS = about 6' 8"
BF to rubber at FFS = 3 inches
RP to FF = +3 inches
Sep at FFS = N/A Degrees
Bauer average velocity 2011 = N/A MPH
L = Leg Lift = When foot comes off of ground into leg lift.
FFS = Front Foot Strike = When the lift leg lands.
FM = First Move = The moment the hips start moving towards target.
PR = Pitch Release = The moment the ball leaves the hand.
SL = Stride Length = Distance of stride.
RP = Release point = The point of release of pitch.
Sep = Hip to shoulder separation.
FF = Front foot
BF = Back Foot
I thought I would get this topic going for players, parents, and coaches who are working the program to share experiences and ideas. Brent did a "Brad Pitching Analysis" for my 15 year old son who is in week 8 of the program. The change in his mechanics in this short of a time frame is amazing. He went from a "tradtional approach" where he used a lot of glove, head, and upper body action to pull his arm around to generate velocity. Not a good approach mechanically or injury wise.
I am glad we sent this clip in at the 8 week point so we could get Brent's perspective on separation and opening early. After looking at the video, we were looking at holding the shoulders back (incorrect), but I am glad you set us straight on the need to focus on speed (hips). It makes alot more sense. After 8 weeks the drills have really imparted alot of muscle memory into the movements and improved his mechanics. But you could see that there is probably a tendency to hold back a little on the speed of the movements as you try to hit the components correctly. Like an assembly line, speed comes thru repetition.
It looks like in week 10 we add the "2 Phase drills" and "Pitching Stretch" to the mix. So let me throw this out to Brent, Coach Robo, DC, and anyone else. Do you feel that when you add in the "2 phase drills" and "Pitching Stretch", the pitcher will get a better feel for separation and will be able to focus on and add speed to the movements. Any other tips or comments would be appreciated.
April 27, 2008
Here is Brad's analysis.
The "2 Phase Drill" was developed to help the pitcher implement the 3X Mechanics from the 3X drills to the mound. Before I developed the "2 Phase Drill," I would take pitchers from the Med throws and Target throw drills, who had developed some good motor coordination around triple extension and separation, and move them straight to the mound. Once they started pitching from the stretch their old mechanics would begin to show up again. The "2 Phase Drill" almost prevents this from happening.
July 14, 2011
Hey, Brent – glad to know that '76 was a good year for you, too…
For what it's worth, I agree that the 2 Phase Drill is the perfect way to transition from the drills to pitching from the stretch. Especially because I think it's exactly what Brad needs to work on. To add to Brent's analysis, look at the #1 position of the 2 Phase Drill on pg 28. The pitcher got to that position while he was lifting his leg. Brad gets to it after he lifts his leg. There's a huge difference. The best way to move faster is to move sooner.
And I would really focus on Brent's advice to work on being explosive with the back leg. Which brings me to why I'm posting – not to just repeat what Brent already said. I think he's barely using his back leg at all. He's doing something I call "walking through the pitch" with a "dead back side". He has maybe the longest drag line I've ever seen. Notice how far you can see the line on the video, and even after that his toe never leaves the ground until it has to to go around his landing foot. Go through a motion like that and see what it feels like. You're basically just dragging your back foot along the ground like an anchor. Almost all hard-throwing pitchers' leg flies up in the air at least to hip level when they finish the pitch. The reason they do that reflexively is that they have rotated against a braced front leg which gives them first something to rotate their hips against and then something to rotate over with their torso – which causes their leg to fly into the air.
It's hard for me to tell from the video, but I wonder if -
- He's flexing his back leg and using it to drive forward like Chapman does, or if he's just throwing his front leg forward and dragging his back leg with it.
- He's bracing his front leg.
It looks to me like he's drifting through his leg plant. Watch his knee give as he goes forward before finishing off to the 3b side. If I was working with him, I'd focus on flexing and exploding with his back leg (as Brent said), leading longer with his hip to keep from opening his foot up too soon (as Brent said), and bracing up his front leg. The last one is my question for Brent: do you agree that he's not bracing his leg – and if so, what would you do about it other than just telling him to do it?
Good looking lefty, Scott. If I had it to do over again I would strap my sons' right arms to their sides at an early age. Being a lefty is a huge advantage to a pitcher who wants to advance.
June 6, 2011
Thanks for the advice and feedback on the 2 phase drill.
Thanks for the advice as well. This was actually the 2nd video I shot (we did a week 4 video and I am not going to film again until week 12) and I wanted him to avoid over analyzing his mechanics, avoid any additional mound throwing, and just focus on doing the drills correctly. As I did not want him reverting to his old style of throwing and getting into bad habits. As you and Brent have said, he is going to work on being faster and more explosive thru the stride phase. And I am going to pay attention to this as he transitions to the the 2 phase and pitching stretch section of the program. Good point about the leg lift as well. He looked at the Trevor Bauer clip (that Brent uses) today, and he likes the way Bauer moves and gets going. I'll have him work on Lift Leg Momentum on his next session. Okay, so maybe I'll do a little more filming before week 12……..
Coach and Brent,
Yes any additional feedback on Stabilization would be appreciated.
April 27, 2008
The best example we have on the forums of the landing leg is the infamous Justin Verlander thread. Just watch his front leg from front foot strike to ball release. Studies have shown that around 175% of our body weight hits our front leg at front foot strike. This means for someone like Verlander to stabilize and almost hyper extend his front leg into release, tells me that he has some serious leg strength.
I believe that a pitcher has lead leg flexion when 3X is not achieved before front foot strike and also when the pitcher has poor leg and core strength. All of my young pitchers struggle with this until they develop more strength using the Fusion system.
I hope you do not mind if I stick my two cents worth in. here goes
As Brent is, I am a real stickler for good mechanics/fundamentals.
Bad body positions, bad beginnings/starts create bad finishes.
"THE PITCHERS BODY IN MOTION"
It is a must for pitchers to first establish and to maintain good body balance throughout the total pitching movement, by beginning with making sure that the head all (10 pounds of it) is "basically" centered between the shoulders, hips and feet, there will be certain times when this will momentarily change especially during the drive from the rubber when the body will momentarily revert into an "L" shape position as the hips are in their lead position before the stride foot follows,"check video clip of "Trevor Bauer." and during the"mouse trap" movement which is the upper body's forward and down ward belly button down "L" shape positional movement as the upper half travels to and through the release point on to it's nice flat back fielding position, which is the final body sequence and body momentum build up etc. transferred from the ground and up through the body into the arm and out through the finger tips. Check and compare Brads balance position and movement, leg lift position, toe pointed position and positional movement step by step from the rubber to front foot touch down with Chapmans and also go over Brent's analysis step by step, listen carefully to every word he says, do not miss a thing. what I do is start backwards from the very last controlled body position and reverse the whole pitching movement step by step back, get every step into proper position as you go back. I like to take video on a regular basis times 2-3 times per week to make sure I immediately notice any changes, you never know when there will be changes, also I do not like to use video clips just for teaching purposes, get some other players in your clips as they are practicing and let them all view themselves, just sit back and let them converse and you may find that each one of them will come up with some very positive remarks about having to make some adjustments of their own, ask them if they notice the need to make some adjustments, talk to them about their good aspects."Never" substitute flat ground throwing for mound throwing, the mound is a pitchers home base.
Get into a good dynamic moving, stretching routine.
I am a stickler on my pitchers executing two very constructive bull pens per. week with a catcher sitting in, even with batters standing in on both sides of the plate. setting them up in blocks, w/number of pitches in each block determined/divided up into each block by the total number of pitches basically thrown during each game concentrating on control and command of each of the four areas out of the middle of the plate, say six pitches in succession in each area of the strike zone. if you only throw a maximum of say, 35-40 pitches during bull pens then the body will most likely break down at 35-40 pitches during a game. "Please note" that this kind of a constructive bull pen schedule is time consuming due to the fact that one does not throw bull pens at or near the same speed that is executed during games. acquiring control and command of the fast ball and the straight change will basically bring any other pitches one has into control, the release point on every pitch is in very close proximity to each to each other so get the fast ball first under great control then follow with the straight change then all other pitches will be easier to get under control. Mike Roberts, coach of the championship team in the Cape Cod league last season basically had his pitchers work on and throwing fast balls and change ups, Mike said that his pitchers experienced great arms all season and went back to college ball with great feeling arms
What is so great about this site is that Brent so unselfishly divulges an enormous amount of intricate pitching info and assistance plus, to all who would like to expand their pitching horizons and there is not one bit of it that is old conventional and opinionated. what the most interesting aspect to me is the very important fact that how the pitchers moving body should work in difference as to how the pitchers moving body naturally works is laid out in very explicit detail, and should be most important to every parent, player, coach and everyone else who is connected to aspiring pitchers in any way shape or form, I make this statement due to the fact that there is an enormous, unnecessary number of chronic sore arms and surgeries within every level of baseball from the major league level through their minor systems, into college, high schools even into our youth players as young as believe or not 10 years old, some experts claim the baseball world is in a near epidemic of these elbow and shoulder problems.
The simple reason that every single person involved particularly with aspiring pitchers of any age is the simple fact that learning, understanding and learning how teach aspiring pitchers what Brent brings to the table in particular about how the pitching body in motion should work would be a big, big step towards at least curtailing/shelving the possibility of acquiring chronic sore arms and surgeries.
Best of luck.
April 27, 2008
August 28, 2011
Exactly. Bad body positions, bad beginnings/starts create bad finishes.
That's why trying to solve a problem at the end of the delivery like let's say the throwing phase won't work until you get the stride phase right. A pitcher is like a five storey building. If you have a bad foundation (the start of your delivery), everything else will be wrong. It's like the leaning tower of piza if the foundation is not built right, and people try and fix the higher storeys, but it won't fix the foundation of the building to keep it straight.
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