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Peter Pitching Analysis
February 5, 2012
2:37 pm
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Hi brent,

 

I've got a video of my pitching here which i would love to get some video analysis on:

I'm 21 years old, and live in the Netherlands. I really want to improve my pitching to help my struggling team to win some games. I think there's a lot of improvements i can make on my mechanics, right now i'm working on keeping my arm pointed more towards 2nd base in my motion, you'll notice it flies open towards first base a LOT which also causes me to look away from my target, better view in this video:

I also saw in my video that there isn't much hip/shoulder separation and no external rotation at all really. I'm not sure what i should work on first, and how exactly, so i was hoping you might know some ways/drills to work on this.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Peter

February 6, 2012
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Well, I have a few words, but obviously take Brent's info more than mine :P. First of all, the fact that you're 21 means you really need to work your butt off. There is definitely alot of improvements you can make with your mechanics, but hopefully you don't take this to critically. It is alright if you're arm flies towards first base. If you look at Chapman, his arm is definitely around first base. So focus more on the lower body movements. Some ways obviously to work on this is to definitely get the 3X program and complete it, and focus more on olympic weightlifting. I'll leave the analysis to Brent XD. Don't want to force to much info on you ;P.

       
February 6, 2012
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I understand your point about my age Zedoryu, I'm 21 and i throw about as hard as some 14 year olds in the US…

I don't know what amateur baseball is like in the US, but here, I've been coached by my dad pretty much my entire life, up to now, and my dad had never touched a baseball before i started playing. He could learn me some basics but he never knew how to really train a pitcher well. I've actually always been one of the best players on my team, but that's the lowest level of baseball we got here :P

Now, there's no professional goals or anything for me in baseball, i just really really love the game, and like getting better at it. These last years I've tried to train myself, never really having serious pitching training, except for a few times during winter. I just want to do as good as i can, with the limited time and resources available to me, I'm mostly trying to do drills and workouts that i can do at home.

Now, about the arm flying out, I see you're right about Chapman, but I thought the fact that my head is pulled away from my target will really reduce my control as well, and I thought it needed to be a smoother arm motion from hand-glove separation to release point, but i can see Chapman also comes to a bit of a stop with his arm. So i guess that can't be all that bad if he can throw 105 mph with it :)

Thanks for your comment, I won't take anything too critically, and it's never too much info, i love info, since im trying to teach myself to be a better pitcher, it's always welcome!

February 12, 2012
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February 12, 2012
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Matt Moore is a breathtaking prospect.  Good night – to be 22 years old, left-handed, with a 95 mph fastball and a wipeout curveball.  Life isn't fair.  And Mr. Porciau nails it as usual.  As good as he is, he has a fairly slow tempo.  By comparison, Trevor Bauer moves about 17% faster than Moore.  It's interesting how the different pieces of 3X fit together to contribute to velocity.  I would say that Moore has a great 3X and an above average 2X.  If he moved a little sooner would he throw any harder?  Maybe – but I bet no one in the Rays organization messes with him.  (And I'm not saying they should.)

I listened to Rob Walton (Oral Roberts University and Team USA head coach) talk about pitching a couple of weeks ago.  (RickI – who posted the Trevor Bauer slo-mo was one of the organizers of the seminar.)  Walton is one of the sharpest pitching minds I've met and a real student of pitching.  He showed us a very persuasive case for why Kerry Wood has had an inconsistent and injury-plagued career despite his hall of fame stuff.  Someone asked him why they don't fix it.  Walton said that when they give someone $10 million+, if anyone changes anything and the guy gets a blister – the guy who changed him gets fired.  Makes sense to me.  And it explains why I've always believed that the best work being done on understanding the pitching delivery is usually done by people who don't have anything to do with professional baseball.   

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February 12, 2012
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Thank you so much! you uploaded this just before my pitcher training, so i got to work on some things already.

Just increasing my stride length felth great and really improves triple extension. I'll have to work a lot on the hip-shoulder separation, felth like it was better but watching the vids afterwards proved me wrong…

I've always focused on the upper part of my body, because i thought lower part was alright, but I'm gonna start from bottom to top now.

I've just got one question about the timing of my arms. Do you think i should conciously work on going later with my arms? Or might it improve naturally with better lower body movement?

I'm not gonna think about arms untill i fix my legs, but just curious for the future.

The possibility to improve by up to 15 mph is a really good motivator btw! thanks!

February 12, 2012
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Peter, I believe it is more effective to speed up than to delay a body movement. If you can focus, like you said, on speeding up your lower half then this will force your arms to react to your lower half movements.

Coach Robo, I appreciate you watching the analysis. I was rambling, so the fact that you listened means a lot. I totally believe those who are not associated with professional baseball are more than likely not corrupted by the politics and conventional wisdom of the game.

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February 13, 2012
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Haha yea. I believe that Matt more is consciously opening his hips. It's like separation without 3X. Obviously, 3X is more explosive because it multiplies the force from the lower body into the upper body. This is why Matt Moore is landing toe first, because he's not moving as explosively and fast. I believe why normal coaches are not as corrupted is because professional coaches already coached professional athletes or gifted athletes and whenever someone who needs help seeks help from them, if they don't know, they'll simply think of ways and invent ways that may not even work and believe that it is the right thing and any other person who tries and correct them they will probably say something like "I've coached professional athletes, and so my way is probably right," without any further research. Normal coaches obviously research ways to help improve their athletes, which is why they are somewhat different XD.

       
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