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Justin Verlander Pitching Mechanics
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September 12, 2011
9:57 pm
ronpitching
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How does Justin Verlander throw 100 mph consistently. Like seriously he doesn't even have anything close to explosive triple extension, separation pitching like Tim Lincecum. Or is he strong and a good athlete like Tim Collins. I just don't understand how he can throw that hard it must be genetic, can you explain how he does this Brent. Thanks

September 13, 2011
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He does achieve triple extension and it is explosive. You are right though his hip to shoulder separation is below average but he does something that most pitchers his size can not do and it is the reason for his velocity. Watch the video to learn more. You definitely will learn something very important from his delivery.

I put together this video because I have received a lot of questions about his mechanics. I hope this clarifies everything!

September 17, 2011
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Brent,

I believe slight differences in opinion allows Pitchers with average ability to excel and Pitchers with exceptional ability to become superstars.

I also did an analysis showing the similarities between top flight, truly elite Pitchers.  Not only was Verlander one of these Pitcher, but the others included Lincecum, Halladay and Strasburg.

I use each pitcher's pitching chain to demonstrate…

  1. How their strides become a reflex reaction to their Glove Side activity,
  2. How each produces exceptional command by anchoring their Glove Side Shoulder and
  3. How their Lower Body activities generate extreme Throwing Arm speed without compromising their command.

(Readers can also validate my findings by reviewing Verlander's motion on your last post.)

In my opinion, the Verlanders, Lincecums, Halladays and Strasburgs of the world are as great as they are because their minimal separation maximizes both their command and their velocity. 

The really good part about this … put a Pitcher's pitching chain in front of a knowledgeable Pitching Coach and the bullet points appearing above become very teachable.

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September 18, 2011
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Brent Pourciau USAW Certified
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Skip,

I wouldn't say "minimal separation maximizes …. velocity" but I would be interested in your analysis. Please post a link here so we can check it out!

September 18, 2011
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does Halladay actually have good mechanics? or is he like Verlander? i've seen him pitch a few times and it seems his mechanics aren't as good as Lincecum or Strasburg, even though the Phillies are the best team. sorry for any other team supporters. I agree with Brent minimal separation does not maximize velocity, unless you are talking about how late separation comes in the delivery. For the first point shouldn't it be the other way around? how the glove side activity becomes a reflex reaction to their strides?

       
September 18, 2011
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Brent,

Here's the link to my analysis … Pro Pitching Institute Verlander, Lincecum, Halladay and Strasburg analysis.

You can also get to this page by clinking on "analysis" in the original post.

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Zedoryu,

In order to respond to your posting, I'd like to make sure you understand the science of a pitching motion.  

To this end and to improve the pitching knowledge of the readers … what is your understanding of an oppositional or antagonistic position as it relates to a pitching motion?

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September 18, 2011
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Hi,

 

You are saying that Lincecum has "minimal separation"???

September 18, 2011
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Skip,

I don't get how your 15 years of experience analyzing elite pitchers brought you to this perspective that the pitching delivery is best defined as a knee jerk reflex. When I think of elite pitchers I think of ballistics, a catapult system, a bow and arrow, even a car crash but not a knee jerk reflex which has nothing to do with launching or throwing an object. Could you fill us in on how you came to this understanding?

I also do not understand what Zedoryu pointed out, when you said, "How their strides become a reflex reaction to their Glove Side activity." This would mean the pitcher is throwing backwards in my head because the stride comes before the glove side tucks not after. Could you clarify this?

I do agree with you that the glove side has a lot to do with your command but it isn't the only factor in precision. The front leg is another major factor. In this article on Pitching Speed and the Glove I talk about how the glove side is a reaction to the stride and works as a fulcrum for the shoulders to rotate around.

I feel that your perspective of the pitching delivery is not completely accurate because in your analysis you are looking at still frames which doesn't give you the total understanding of movement. Why do you chose to use still frames for analysis and not an animated clip of several frames at a time?

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