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The John Madden Of Pitching Instruction

by Brent Pourciau · July 11, 2011

The more and more I read the information coming from another online pitching coach, who I will refer to as DM to avoid naming names, the more he reminds me of John Madden. You know when John Madden makes those quotes during Monday night football that make you wonder if he is totally aware of what he just said? I get this feeling with DM a lot.

For example, I just read his last email because I am on his subscriber list which means I get an email a day. The email was titled, “Does strength training really increase velocity? This study provides the proof.” He goes on to fumble around and say,”Velocity comes mainly from the forces produced that allow the trunk to rotate and flex forward fast and powerfully…..Weight training will mostly waste valuable time.” I would like to ask DM, but he doesn’t allow commenting on his website, so you are saying that using weight training to increase your bodies ability to produce force or power, is a waste of time? What? DM, are you actually reading what you are writing? He continues on in the email to make a serious bogus claim.

DM writes, “Tell Tim Lincecum’s father that as Chris Lincecum was smart to stay away from a weight training program and focus instead of devoting his time to helping Tim build an explosive delivery that allowed Tim at 5’7″ 135 lbs to throw 92 mph.” DM, How do you think one builds an explosive delivery without training to be more explosive which involves some type of resistance training? The absurdity of all of this, which I have pointed out before, is that either DM is misleading us or he is really bad at researching his claims. For example, he said that Jim “The Rookie” Morris never lifted weights to increase his velocity but when I did an interview with Jim Morris and asked him this question, he immediately said he lifted a lot of weights. Once again DM makes another bogus claim here saying that Tim Lincecum’s father never used weight training to train his son but when I do a simple Google search I find two legitimate sources saying the opposite.

ESPN
“The mechanics Tim employs now are the same he used then … Chris (Lincecum) designed a weight-training program for Tim”
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3713221

JockBIO
When Tim entered Liberty High School in Renton, he stood just 4-11 and weighed all of 85 pounds. Incredibly flexible, the teeanger was much stronger than he appeared, thanks mostly to a weight training program devised by Chris. Tim could do a back flip from a standing start and walk across the room on his hands.
http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/T_Lincecum/T_Lincecum_bio.html

If that isn’t enough to make you wonder if DM has any clue of what he is talking about when it comes to weight training, let’s look more into his findings behind velocity. He finishes his email pointing to this study, that is very hard to find on the Internet, which is titled, An analysis of high-speed isokinetics and pitching. DM claims that this study is proof that weight training does not increase velocity. Only if DM had any experience or form of education when it comes to weight training I might actually want to listen to what he has to say but remember the last time DM played in a baseball game was 42 years ago when weight training was almost non-existent in sports. I wonder if athletes have gotten any better athletically in the past 42 years due to the infiltration of weight training into sports? I am being sarcastic!

Let’s look at this study. Here is an excerpt of the results taken from the study.

The importance of strength, power, and acceleration were investigated in baseball fastball pitching. The only variables that related to pitching were those associated with speed. Acceleration and power at the fastest movement speeds accounted for almost all fastball pitching variance (99%). Strength was not related to speed of movement and therefore, should not be a variable considered when training for speed.

This is exactly why weight training is critical for velocity because you can train power and pure speed in the weight room. Power is simply defined as the balance of pure speed and pure strength. This study is only saying that strength alone will not increase velocity but both strength and speed or power will. How in God’s name did DM determine that this study proves that weight training does not increase velocity? Maybe he has been researching this stuff with John Madden!

If you have been persuaded or brain washed by DM on weight training for the pitcher, I would advise that you educate yourself here with these legitimate case studies that prove the power of weight training to increase velocity. There is also countless articles on this site educating you on the importance of weight training for increasing velocity. I would love for DM to debate me here over this topic but I don’t see it happening because he obviously lacks the education around weight training and the athlete!

Characteristic ground-reaction forces in baseball pitching
This study validates the clinical impression that the lower extremity is an important contributor to the throwing motion. Based on this study, strengthening of the lower extremities could be inferred to be important both to enhance performance and to avoid injury.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9474404

Baseball Throwing Velocity: A Comparison of Medicine Ball Training and Weight Training
The results of this study suggest that the use of heavier loads has been more effective than the medicine ball training in increasing velocity
http://up.topvelocity.net/uploads/2011/03/baseball-throwing-weight-training.pdf

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