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April 27, 2008
The little bit I got to hit in my career I always focused on the pelvic load. I learned it from Mark McGwire, I saw him hitting off of a tee with a volleyball between his knees. When hitting I can fell more tension in the hips in this position.
I have played with it some with the pitching delivery but with little success. I am glad you brought this up Coach because it is important to learn. Chapman and Chapman synchronize not only their feet through the stride to front foot strike but also their knees. I am not sure if this is coiling the hips more supporting hip rotation or if it is a synchronized movement of the lower extremity that is having a dominate effect on driving the hips open. I will definitely play with this more and use your drill. I would be glad to call it the Robo Drill. It really sounds cool!
April 27, 2008
This has been a very interesting topic. The more I think about these concepts Bow/Flex/Bow, Pelvic Loading and Scap Loading the more I realise 3X sees it differently. Not much differently but differently. I appreciate what these concepts are trying to define but I feel they do not paint the same picture as 3X Pitching.
This is what is great about having different approaches to this game. One approach may work great for one pitcher but may have less of an impact on another. I am glad 3X Pitching is unique in a way that it represents a different style to pitching than these concepts above. Not that I will not work everyday to make 3X Pitching the best approach it can be. Thanks for starting this thread Z and Coach Robo for bringing so much value to it!
June 15, 2012
This has been very entertaining to say the least. I have really tried to wrap my head around the WRING the RAG idea. I have played around with the idea of just pivoting off my back leg and found very little power developed. However, as for the scalp loading at the end of the stride that is a very important part of throwing, for it transfers the energy from the legs and core into the upper body and out the throwing arm. I do have a question though that maybe someone has a strong answer for. When the pitcher loads his back leg with the front leg lift, does that weight rest to off the top of the leg (quads muscles) or is it from the inside of the groaning before it is use to explode? It would make more since to get more out of the top of the leg then the inside part, because it is a much stronger muscle.
Also I see a lot of non-professional pitchers have trouble throwing on a streight front leg. It seems like they are over striding maybe?Or maybe the lack of scapula loading at the end of the stride that carries them to far over there front side, instead of getting them to pull down onto the stiff leg? Your thoughts?
A.k.A Teachermans worse nightmare
April 27, 2008
When you are loading on your drive leg you want to put the resistance on the quad. You want to stretch the quad as you flex down which will implement the stretch shortening cycle as the quad fires into triple extension or 3X.
Low velocity pitchers who have long strides but short stride speeds. They will benefit from either shortening the stride or increasing stride speed.
I do not believe that scap loading is the cause of separation. It is more the result of the hip rotation speeds and the stretching of the drive leg hip flexor pushing forward with the shoulders tilted back.
April 27, 2008
I wanted to post a new case study that was just released this month. It is called, Lower-extremity ground reaction forces in collegiate baseball pitchers. Here are the results from the study:
A correlation between braking force and ball velocity was evident.
You can read the entire study here:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu.....d/22344047
Teacherman made the comment many times that pitchers do not "push into a block." These are his words in quotes. This study above proves that pitchers, they used collegiate pitchers in the 78mph range, actually push 45 ± 63% body weight during the stride and then brake 202 ± 43% body weight in the pitching delivery.
Brent Pourciau USAW Certified said
Z, I banned him from the site because he was threatening me in emails. I also found who he is. Here is his Facebook page. He owns a Billiards Sports Bar in Missouri and he is a teacher. It looks like he was a catcher in college at Truman State University. Cape Girardeau
Richard Schenck, Catcher (1975)
Hey Brent, Since you mentioned Schenk I thought I would put my 2 cents in, small world, I made some comments on the High School web site about hitting a year or so ago, Schenck commented back and really blasted me in disagreement.
Hey, congratulations on your "Baseball America article" It is about time for people to wake up and start noticing from where the most up to date and helpful pitching information comes from. I talk to numerous people about getting on this site but these people here are stuck way deep in their old conventional opinionated ways.
I am working some what with a high school junior who is a starter on the foot ball and basket ball teams , was a JV baseball player 1st base and pitcher last season, who is a year behind on making a decision as to what sport to lean to and to apply his thinking towards his intentions about college, Being little short on his potential level there is a possibility that he may be relegated strictly to JV again this season beings that he is behind a senior who is not going to be out of there unless something very unusual happens. I had a nice serious talk with his parents a few days ago about these things.
His dad told me earlier today that he had been viewing your web site then he had to go so I have no idea as to what he was viewing. I am attempting to get him to send you some video for an analysis, we will see, His name is Joseph Maciel, his son's name is Anthony,
April 27, 2008
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