Degradation of Tim Lincecum 2012 | Talk Pitching | TopVelocity Baseball Forum
April 2, 2012
I like to start my first post ever as a discussion about the degradation of lincecum. he is easily my favorite pitcher since sanford college and his mechanics enlightened mine.
his FB is 90-92 with movement however his command has been up and no downward movement. to me his body speed looks slower than usual and of course its hard to tell what he trains like in the off season or how hard hes worked to prepare for 2012 season.
his changeup/slider combo is still his bread and butter with an explosive fastball in a good spot
open discussion ? just curious as i hope he doesn’t injure himself or is battling health issues.. i believe his mechanics give his arm minimized stress
April 27, 2008
Lincecum has slowed down his delivery and he uses a more rotation lift leg. He is not coming as far off the rubber with his drive leg as much which is proof he is producing less stride power. Here is clips from college and then today. You can see the difference in the speed and power of the two deliveries. In the college delivery at front foot strike his drive leg is a good 12+ inches from the rubber and in the MLB footage his drive leg at front foot strike is only a few inches from the rubber.
June 20, 2011
April 27, 2008
April 2, 2012
August 28, 2011
Well, I doubt his hair would be causing the major problem. It’s probably the influences of the MLB, that he has changed his mechanics slightly and has stopped weightlifting. They are trying to baby him. But look it could just be because he is trying to work on his accuracy and in turn took away his velocity.
September 5, 2011
Hey everyone, it’s been far too long.
Just wanted to briefly weigh in on this topic. Brent, you’re dead-on. He’s clearly slowed down and is over-rotating, causing further problems with his consistency and command. Personally, I think his issues are an easy fix: move faster. We talked about this at length in another post, but in his smaller frame, he can’t afford to move as “slow” as a Justin Verlander from a basic physics and strength standpoint.
My recommendation? Use his love of music, similar to what Kershaw does: consistently listen to a song(s) with a fast beat (120 + beats per minute) and move along with it. As of now, I think he just does whatever, and it has worked for him in the past, but sometimes routines are the best thing for a pitcher (just ask Roy Halladay and Google his struggles before turning elite). If he gets moving faster, he won’t have time to rotate as far back and will divert to his mechanics in the video of when he pitched for The University of Washington. That’ll get him going and back on track. Until then, things may get worse before they get better.
Excellent question and topic.
Living in Colorado and being a Rockies fan, I keep up with all the NL West teams. Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez (no longer with the Giants) were fun to watch except when they pitched against the Rox.
I believe that the mental wear and tear that the Giants rotation has had to face over the last couple of years is finally getting to their pitching staff. Knowing that the offense is not going to score many runs is tough on a pitcher mentally. Every five days, your team is almost asking you to throw a shutout. There were times last year when the Giants would give up one run and it might as well been 20 runs. Maybe this is a factor in his command, trying to be too perfect, maybe not.
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