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Brent Pourciau USAW Certified
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March 26, 2013 – 9:28 pm
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What is giving you that impression because when I slow the video down and walk it frame by frame into front foot strike I see the belt buckle moving into the open position? Are you not seeing this?

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March 26, 2013 – 9:36 pm
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I am defiantly seeing that but from the pictures I uploaded, it looks like Chapman and Moore are trying to triple extend into a closed front hip before FFS. At FFS, the front hip opens a little then the next frame it slams open and the shoulders are still back.  

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My advice would be to never use photos to try and understand movements. Video is the only way to learn the truth about a movement.

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Maybe this will help. It sounds like you have it all backwards. The foot drives the knee which drives the hip. This means that the feet are driving into a closed hip position only because the pitcher starts with the hips closed not because he is trying to keep the hips closed. Does that help?

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Brent you always have the answers, just cleared up all confusion i had. Thanks! And you are right looking at the video through the motion really works better than using still pictures. 

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Brent Pourciau USAW Certified said
Once the front foot opens the hips begin to rotate. The high velocity pitcher is trying to keep the hips closed until just before front foot strike but once the front foot opens the hips start rotation. You are seeing early hip rotation because the hips must be open at the moment of front foot strike to support explosive trunk rotation. The key is you must start hip rotation JUST before front foot strike to support this explosive trunk rotation after front foot strike.  

I don’t know if the Pitchers Power Drive has been mentioned.  The device may have its benefits.  The device is being promoted by a number of college and professional coaches as well as players.  My post is more about something I noticed not directly related to the device, but the comment of John Miller, owner of Pitchers Power Drive, during an analysis of Daniel Bard using the device.

The comment was made at about 1:45 into the video under “Why It Works.”

“…out to landing…where his belt buckle will be closed.  This is very important.  A lot of pitchers the belt buckle and hips buckle will open up early…into early rotation…”

Link:  http://www.pitcherspowerdrive……m/why.html

I noticed this right away after watching the video.  Bard is at foot strike, with his entire front foot planted, and his hips have not started to rotate at all.  If a pitcher pitches like Bard, he is more prone not to engage his hips well and not to create separation between the upper and lower body.  Coincidentally, Bard has been struggling.       

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I notice this same analysis a while back and was wondering why anyone would analyze footage of a pitcher not pitching at game speed. It would be like analyzing Usain Bolt on his sprinting mechanics while he is jogging. This just makes me question this coaches understanding of pitching mechanics all together.

The problem with the PPD is that it only coaches one small part of the entire complex pitching delivery. The initial move is very important but only a very small piece to the puzzle. Those who buy product like this and expect results are those who would buy a lottery ticket to try and make a living.

Thanks for the post!

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The important thing here is to be aware of the fact that the stride foot must first touch down softly with a controlled soft knee bend, and then immediately plant or as some people term it, slam down, then the stride foot knee and leg needs to firm up, and stabilize the glove side hip to enable the throwing side hip to rotate and have the freedom/flexibility to initiate hip to shoulder separation which should actually begin a split second prior to stride foot touch/plant down.
The body move from the rubber to stride foot touch/plant down is a sideways, closed body position movement.with no body rotation until the initiation of hip to shoulder separation.
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