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i am having very difficult time trying to stabilize my leg at front foot strike. every time i pitch my leg keeps moving forward instead of being stabilized. is their any specific drills that will help me stabilize my front leg at front foot strike. just one more thing, when i try to studied pro pitchers i cannot tell if whether they are pushing off the mound or if their momentum is the reason why triple extension occurs. 

 

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Ramon, your problem is called lead knee flexion. This has a big impact on velocity. There is two reasons that lead knee flexion will occur. One is because you are not achieving triple extension in your drive leg before or just at front foot strike. The reason this causes lead knee flexion is because if your hips are completely closed to the target at front foot strike and then you attempt to rotate your hips after front foot strike, the knee will push towards the target and twist as the hips are rotating all the way around.The second reason for lead knee flexion is poor leg and core strength. Studies have shown that your landing leg will have to support up to 175% of your body weight at front foot strike. If you can not squat or power clean 175% of your body weight then preventing lead knee flexion with a stride around 80-90% of your height will be almost impossible.

The 3X Pitching Velocity program helps you fix this issue through coaching you to develop the motor coordination to achieve triple extension before front foot strike along with training you through the Fusion System to develop the leg and core strength necessary to achieve explosive triple extension and front leg stabilization.

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Considering what ramon said earlier, I too cannot tell wether pitchers are pushing off the mound or if their momentum is the reason why triple extension occurs. Because we are having problems with triple extension too.

       

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Oh yes forgot include this, what if the have a flexion in the lead knee before front foot strike, because I seem to have that problem and whenever I try fixing it, it sometimes gives me the right mechanic but it’s usually flexed.

       

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I understand neither of you have the 3X Pitching Velocity program which has all of the research behind triple extension and the drive in pitching, so I will give you some good info here.

There are three ways to build momentum in your stride. One is by lifting your leg and falling to front foot, also known has “Stand Tall and Fall.” The other is by lifting your leg and dropping and driving to your front foot, also known as “Drop and Drive.” The last way is by lifting your leg, falling and driving to your front foot which is the most effective in generating power and is the foundation of the 3X approach.

All pitchers will use one of these ways of building a stride. I believe the later is the most effective in reaching your top velocity. The difficulty is converting that stride power into hip to shoulder separation. Here is a clip of Brandon Morrow using the 3X approach to building power through his stride. It is very obvious that he is falling and driving by using triple extension in his drive leg.

In either of the stride options you have what is called ground reaction forces. This is defined in detail in the 3X Pitching book. This means that all athletes, pitchers included, must use ground reaction forces to create movement or momentum. This being said you will find that the majority of hard throwers with use either the “Drop and Drive” approach or the “3X” approach in their pitching deliveries.

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Brent, I have another question about front foot stabilization. In this little video here near then end Morrow’s leg is still bent. By the time he has his chest out and is about ready to deliver the pitch, is that when he stabilizes and straightens it out. I saw the slow motion of Verlander’s mechanics and at the end his leg is completely straight. I am just a little confused on exactly how it should be.

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Yes, you are right. Morrow’s leg is still bent. But he keeps it stabilized so that it doesn’t go past the heels. Verlander is just a beast at getting his leg complete extended. He’s one of the players who somewhat get his velocity from that.

       

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Morrow, does stabilize his leg and prevents lead knee flexion like most high velocity pitchers but he does not have front leg extension like Justin Verlander. What Morrow does better than Verlander is he has a more explosive 3X. He almost jumps off of the mound. He does not do this in the clip above because he is throwing at a low intensity level but view his upper 90 delivery and you will see him jumping off the mound with an insane 3X before front foot strike. To understand how the front leg and drive leg work together to increase pitching velocity read my article on the 3X to 2X Factor to Pitching Velocity.

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