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if you take a look at these videos, you'll see that my torso and shoulders are way tilted to my glove side at my release. I think I was relying on the weight of my head and my glove side to generate my velocity. My eyes do not stay level in my delivery and I really throw my head around. I have been doing the 3X program for three weeks now, and I no longer need to completely tilt my torso and shoulders when I pitch. I can keep my torso more vertical now, and it feels much more natural. I know for a fact that keeping my torso more upright has helped my command an insane amount and I feel like it has also helped my velocity. I do not know for sure if it has helped my velocity because I haven't been gunned yet since making the adjustment (a change that I credit to the 3X program). I think ever since I started moving more explosively, I haven't been needing to use my head and glove side to generate velocity.

 

what are your thoughts on this? do you think tilting my torso was effecting my velocity? it certainly was effecting my command. 

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You can see here that you are still way far away from building optimal stride power. You are still not achieving 3X before front foot strike. I know this takes time but this is what you are working for. This will prevent you from pulling your head and glove side down at front foot strike.

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both of the videos I posted are old, and before I started 3X. I know I was not building optimal stride power in them. I posted the videos to show a mistake that I have been making almost my whole pitching career, up to a few days ago. In the picture you posted of me vs brandon morrow, that was me before I developed a more explosive stride, thus I had bad head movement and torso tilt. I do not have this now and I have much better command and I believe better velocity. 

the thing is, even though I was striding better, I didn't notice anything different until I started keeping my torso upright and eyes level, which was 3 days ago. Just wondering if the angle of my torso was a major factor.

I'm not rushing through the program or working on irrelevant things, I'm just realizing that 3X is allowing me to correct many mechanical flaws that I didn't know how to correct before. 

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Got it! I was a little confused. It is hard to say that keeping the torso up right during the stride is more effective because you do see pitchers like Felix Hernandez dip hard back towards the drive leg during the stride. I now understand where you are coming from now and my opinion is if you feel it is working then go with it, just make sure you are hitting 3X before front foot strike and converting it to optimal hip to shoulder separation.

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Oh ok. Kershaw is tilted back too, so it must work.  

 

And how about keeping the torso upright during release? That was another thing – I had a very titled torso at release of my pitch. 

Thanks Brent.

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Yes, Chapman as well but look at Chapman and Morrow they stay more upright. This is why I do not coach a vertical torso during the stride.

At release you want to have as much forward trunk tilt as possible with front leg extension. You also do not want your head down but up and chin tucked.

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Zedoryu,

 

yeah, you got it, you understand what I’m saying. I think I was relying on pulling my glove side and head down to generate a good portion of my velocity, rather than letting my body work and let my arm get its best rotation. To me, it seems I get better arm speed and hold onto the ball longer (more application time) when my torso is upright, probably related to the better rotation of my arm. I’m still not pulling down to release though, so that’s why I am excited about this. Of course, if keep my torso upright, more of my energy would be going toward the target as well. Anyway, I have no idea, maybe there isn’t an obvious answer really, and maybe it’s sort of particular to me. That’s what I was trying to figure out (or I was trying to, because I’ll find out tomorrow if it has increased my velocity anyway). 

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