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June 21, 2012 – 9:37 am
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Check this out! Read below the email I received recently from Paul Reddick.

PAUL REDDICK

Subject: Truth about Lincecum

A year ago this month we debuted a webinar called The Lincecum Trap.

In this webinar, I warned players and parents about the dangers of trying to copy his delivery.

This was the most controversial thing we ever did. Linceucm believers came out in droves to tell me how wrong I was about good ol Timmy.

Some respected pitching coaches even chimed in telling me how Lincecum was “rewriting pitching history”

I hate to say I told you so…but, a year later and it doesn’t seem like everyone is so anxious to copy his delivery this year.

He’s sitting at 2-8 with a 6.19 ERA and barely hanging on to his spot in the rotation. The Giants have lost 16 of the last 20 games he’s started.

THIS IS AN INJURED PITCHER!!

The first sign of injury is erratic and poor performance.

I’m gonna get into this in detail more this. I’m also considering replaying the webinar.

I’ll keep you posted.

What do you think about what Paul is saying?

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June 21, 2012 – 12:46 pm
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I didn’t catch Paul’s webinar on Lincecum so I have no idea what his opinions are on Lincecum’s issues. I respect what Paul has to say even though I will still have my opinion on the subject. Here is my two cents.

I believe the reason he is struggling this year is more complicated than mechanics or an injury. First off if he had an injury he is smart enough and respected enough to go public with it and get some help. Second off his mechanics have changed considerably since he first came up. We talk about that here in this thread:

https://www.topvelocity.net/for…..um-2012-1/

I believe if you are going to try and determine his reason for his decline this season, it more than likely has to do with the fact that he just signed a record breaking deal with the Giants this season. 40.5 million dollars making it the largest contract ever for an arbitration-eligible player with less than six years experience. Many players who have been given this kind of money have below average seasons the following year. Look at Albert Pujols after his $240 million contract signed this season he is having one of his worst years ever.

My point is when a great player has a bad year that isn’t enough time to determine his demise. He needs more time, respectfully so!

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This is a really interesting topic especially since all we can do is speculate on what might be going on. I don’t understand why he would come into the big leagues throwing 96-98 and now he’s just hanging around 90 most of the time. I feel like it wouldn’t make much sense to change anything to experience such a velocity drop.

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Your numbers are wrong. Lincecum’s first year in Major League Baseball was 2007 he averaged 93.6 mph. This year his average is 90.4 mph. This is a 3.2 mph drop. In 2010, when the Giants won the World Series and Lincecum was the winning pitcher, his average pitching velocity was 91.2 mph. That was a 2.4 mph drop from his rookie season. His pitching velocity drop wasn’t a big deal then, why is it now? It is a big deal now because Lincecum is not finding success on the mound which has little to do with a .8 mph drop in pitching velocity from his World Series season.

You can see when you look at the numbers, pitching velocity is more than likely not the issue here.You can view all of Tim Lincecum stats below.

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch…..position=P

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My fault on the numbers. I should have looked at fan graphs before commenting. Do you think it’s just command issues then? His stuff always looks filthy. From what I see he has 41 bb in 77 innings and a whip just over 1.5. I’ve only sen him throw like once or twice this year.

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I haven’t been watching him this season. I just believe it is a confidence issue for him at this point. He has thrown a ton of pitches in Major League ball at 16353 as compared to Brian Wilson’s 5096 in the same amount of time. Now if you want to talk injury then there you go. Brian Wilson has thrown 11,000 less pitches than Lincecum in the same amount of time and Brian Wilson is the one on the DL. Wilson has averaged a higher velocity than Tim at 95.7mph for his career over Tim’s 92.6 mph average. That is a 3.1 mph difference.

Cliff Lee came up the same time as Lincecum and has thrown 14725 pitches for his career. You can see how Lincecum is still a machine and still has a set of mechanics that have proven to be successful for a guy who is 5’11 163 lbs.

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I really don’t understand how conventional coaches might say it is his mechanics that ar the problem. If Tim were to use a conventional approach to his delivery, making it to the big leagues and having the success he has had might never of happened for him. Confidence could definately be an issue though.

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By the way, the webinar is hosted on http://www.thelincecumtrap.com/ it starts in about 20 minutes.

       

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